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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 10, 2010 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Wow - there's a challenge. Don't think mine would stay the same from one moment to the next, but top of the head right now:

(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash
Box of Rain - Grateful Dead
Desperados Waiting for a Train - Guy Clark
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes - Crosby, Stills and Nash
Free Man in Paris - Joni Mitchell

But, hell, I could give you another five in a minute...

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Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Aug 11, 2010 6:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Fearless - Pink Floyd
Embryonic Journey - jefferson airplane
Rock 'N' Roll - velvet underground
Angel Dream #2 - tom petty
16 Days - whiskeytown

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 11, 2010 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

16 DAYS!

Love that whole album ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIVVj7Zbawc

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Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Aug 11, 2010 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

16 Days -- it's one of the first songs I saw my kids really react to -- they love it and used to beg for a "family dance concert" (so named by a 3 year old) whenever it came on.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Green is the Colour/CWTAE - Pink Floyd
Buckets of Rain - Bob Dylan ( Neko Case version )
Cortez - Niel Young
Dark Star - GD
Eyes of the World - GD
Pat Garret and Billy the Kid (whole album)- Bob Dylan

Always changes, but these are perennials

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 11, 2010 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Top five right now:

SweetWine (CREAM, Live)
Can'tFindmyWayHome (BlFaith)
Julie'sHouse (LeoKot)
Today (JAirpl)
WCriesMary(Jimi)

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Poster: Edsel Date: Aug 10, 2010 6:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Section 43 ....... excellent !

Clare de Lune as played by Van Cliburn
The Circle Game - Joni Mitchel
Keep On Smilin' - Wet Willie
The Fool - Quicksilver Messenger Service
The Man Who Paints The Pictures - Fever Tree

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 10, 2010 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Box of Rain is actually not talked about much either. I'm almost embarrassed to bring up Box of Rain; I expect everyone to just roll their eyes like that's so trite. Glad somebody else is willing to.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 11, 2010 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

what are you, nuts?! box of rain is a fantastic song, and an unusual one from a musical perspective. that's one of those "good songs for a funeral" types. ooh, i sense another thread coming on...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 6:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

No, no, I love Box of Rain, I love it so much it's embarrassing. I kind of feel like we pick and pick at a lot of the songs, but the Really Big Ones, we can't go there, we get embarrassed and have to look away, if that makes sense.

Or maybe there have been a lot of threads on Box of Rain that were before my time here.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

just because it's obvious doesn't make it not worth mentioning. i frequently forget about the power of that song.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 11, 2010 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Oh, you are DEAD wrong newbie (har)...you might get demoted talking like this...

Huge discussions yrs past, I am sure (or were they off site? No...couldn't have been). Many have talked about it being THE only song played at a memorial service (I've been to two, sadly, such events).

Box has gotten a lot of attn here, I am sure. And certainly elsewhere.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Well, that was my second hypothesis: that everyone was just sick of the topic.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 11, 2010 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Yeah, and the lack of "live" versions probably contributes, eh? Dunno.

Didn't mean to come on too strong there, and I may be recalling off site discussions with Forumites in part. We all agreed that the version by RHunter is very nice for memorial services as it is more somber and the words come thru more clearly (the ablum is almost "upbeat" which is fine, but you get the idea...).

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

I'll have to go look up some of the old discussions. I was just pleased when Rob listed it as one of his favorite songs; in the few months I've been hanging around here, I haven't seen it come up much. I didn't know if that was because the topic was worn out or if everyone's love of Box of Rain is just so obvious there's no need for discussion. I mean even non-deadheads love Box of Rain.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 11, 2010 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Here are a few:

http://www.archive.org/post/172111/box-of-rain

http://www.archive.org/post/303659/box-of-rain-amazing-how-little-phils-voice-changed

http://www.archive.org/post/266967/grateful-death-songs

[the above is more general than just Box]

http://www.archive.org/post/241696/box-of-rain-and-gtspace-too-cool-real-nasa-footage-dead-related

http://www.archive.org/post/176992/youtube-vid-phil-and-hunter-speak-about-box-of-rain

[the above is vid interview footage]

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 12, 2010 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Thanks ... maybe we need a new Box of Rain thread soon. I had to put in American Beauty in the car this morning.

I've never understood why Phil sounds so different on the studio version. If he is able to sing like that, why did he never do it later? It's like one afternoon he was able to sing ... maybe it was just a dream we dreamed ... Don't get me wrong, I like the rough-voiced BOR's also, though I have to admit, the first time I heard one (never heard one live), I thought, "What the hell."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 12, 2010 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Well, recall that his harmonizing is pretty fair to good, even great on Attics and other 1970 studio efforts...and then MarsHotel has a couple solo tunes. I'd say with practice and studio help, he had a decent voice, though limited, and best in harmonies...I have always love his 65 EMRain, and OTisNow.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 12, 2010 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

An acquired taste I guess, but once you've acquired it, you're not gonna shake it.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 11, 2010 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

I think they like Ripple even more... my 85 yr old mother loves when we (sibs) sing it. The fam damily sings along.

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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Into the Mystic - Van Morrison
Song of the Wind - Santana
I’d Have You Anytime - George Harrison
Oh Yes I Can - David Crosby
That’s Where I Belong - Paul Simon

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Oh these are good people, Dan.

But I'd go for:

Caravan
Samba Pa Ti
What Is Life
Laughter
The Boxer

All subject to change of course!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

No way I can even begin to do such a poll justice, but right now this song leaps to mind (and I'm not even sure it's one of his top 5):

Powderfinger - Neil Young AND Crazy Horse

Others in my brain at the moment (reflects songs return to over last few years that are studio cuts):
Impossible Germany -Wilco (I'll defend it!)
A Love Supreme - Coltrane (does that really count?)
Hard on Me - Richard Thompson
Papa Was A Rolling Stone - Temptations (or was that psychedlic shack?)
The Weight - The Band (particularly like version with the Staples)
Breathless - Jerry Lee Lewis

I can't play this game - too hard. Everyone I think of I immediately want to cross off and put on 10 others...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

I agree - much too hard a game to play. It's why I immediately came up with five more after Cliff's post.

Really, though, I'm just pitching in here to say:
Impossible Germany - I'll be on the barricades with you defending that song, it's just wonderful. (But of all Wilco's songs I think it's She's a Jar that haunts me most - the last line is a blow to the solar plexus).

Yes, Staples and the Weight - sheer magic.

And can I just make a pitch for the Four Tops and Reach Out I'll Be There? More operatic magnificence in 3 minutes than Wagner could muster in 3 hours.

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Pappa was a rollin stone, nice! Here goes:
Take the A train, Duke Ellington
Scrapple from the Apple, Charlie Parker (w/ Miles)
Kaw-liga, Hank Williams
Judy is a Punk, Ramones
Green Onions, Booker T. and the MG's
and
and
and

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Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Aug 11, 2010 5:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

green onions --love that song and was lucky enough to catch jerry & the boys do it -- rochester, 1988
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1988-06-30.sbd.miller.96071.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Gold and Silver - Quicksilver Messenger Service
Green Is The Colour - Pink Floyd
Section 43 - Country Joe and the Fish
Incident at Neshabur - Santana
Deacon Blues - Steely Dan

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 10, 2010 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Life's Greatest Fool - Gene Clark
Pancho and Leftie - Townes van Zandt
Good Shepherd - Jefferson Airplane
The Littlest Birds - Be Good Tanyas
Marquee Moon - Television

It changes every time I think about it.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 10, 2010 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Today right now ,
Joy - Gordon Gano
Kool Thing - Sonic Youth
Highlands - RZ
Heroin - VU Live in Paris
Alice - Tom Waits

edit - I was going to delete this b/c my list has already changed . I'll leave it as a moment in time . Impossible for me to choose five all time .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 10, 2010 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Don't be deleting stuff now ... I hardly know any of the songs any of you have brought up so I need to file these away to live and learn.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 10, 2010 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Interesting stuff above. A few standards for the playlist...

Pride and Joy Stevie Ray Vaughan
Louise Leo Kottke
Late in the Evening Paul Simon
Hejira Joni Mitchell (an amazing album)
Chain of Fools Aretha Franklin

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 11, 2010 6:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

"Alice" might be top ten for me, that's an unbelievable song.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 10, 2010 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Hey, saw Gordon Gano play a pub AFTER the VU show in Prague. He was kind of following them around Europe (and went to high school in Milwaukee with archive listed musician Kevn Kinney...)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 10, 2010 8:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

There is not a shade of green that can describe my skin color .
What do you think of his work with the Ryan Bro. , and specifically , Under the Sun ?

Check this out ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqSq65yh54g&;feature=related

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 11, 2010 1:48pm
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I don't really know it - but I saw the femmes a bunch (one of most fun tours ever was them w/ the pogues (shane in the band) and mojo nixon/skid roper). That said, like link you gave and think he is fantastic.

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Yes, Cliff. Green is the Colour is a top 5 for me too. Along with CWTAE as a suite. I've been collecting every version I can find for the past month.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

Have you found a better performance of the song than 9/16/70?

I have listened to it a thousand times and still get goosebumps. Gilmour just nails it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvSgV1u3sU

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Poster: bbbrew Date: Aug 11, 2010 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 5 songs!

That 9-16 is a sweet and strong version.

Ive been mostly listening to 11-11-70, Pictures of Pink Floyd. David's vocals are just beautiful.

Here are the notes:

The "Pictures Of Pink Floyd" Restoration Project

This is IMO the most special Pink Floyd concert experience ever recorded. The quality and rarity of "The Librest Spacement Monitor" justifies all the hype, and at last you can hear it in the best possible manner.

First of all, something for you to consider:

This was a cooperative effort, requiring the talents and input of several people of different nationalities. The material presented is of sufficient rarity to warrant the following statements:

Don't even THINK of auctioning or selling this material for your own monetary gain. Internet auctions will be monitored both in Europe and in the United States. We'll know what to do about that if it happens, the rest is up to you. The message is clear and simple: It's free, keep it that way, we mean what we say. And... don't shoot the messenger.

It is strongly recommended that you keep all the files intact when trading this material to other groups. Feel free to add your own comments.

Please do not encode to lossy sources when trading this material.

Lastly, a great thank you to Mr. (Herr) Peter D., who brought the albums across the Atlantic and back, made it both ways with both his sanity and his records intact, and who has granted me permission to post this material on his behalf. Also thanks to K.F. and E.D. for tea and sympathy.

Technical Data:

Records were played on a Technics Sl-1200MK2 turntable, using a Layla 3G console directly into a Dell computer. There was no sound card used during the recording process (the Layla generates a virtual card). Music recording was directly processed by Sound Forge 6.0. Too much high-quality percussion existed within the recordings to use a vinyl restoration suite. A digital spot remover was used manually to remove the larger clicks and crackles, then an automatic remover was used afterwards. Results were real-time compared with the raw wav file, both by monitoring from the computer, and by auditioning a test-pressing on a home-theatre system. Unfortunately, there was a major flaw found in the vinyl on side one at around the 5:15 mark. That was 'jiggled' as much as possible after rerecording the entire side and starting over.

Side Four (Pictures Vol 2, Side Two) presented special problems. As is generally known, the recording of Atom Hear Mother starts out fine, but gradually gets faster and faster. A map was made by consensus, of the many pitch changes relative to the beginning of the piece. Unfortunately, it isn't just a linear speed change, where it would be easy to "just slow it down". The pitch of known musical interludes was manually compared and adjusted via the Sound Forge "pitch bend" and "pitch shift" functions. It quickly got confusing and very complicated to do all the changes relative to one another, and about 15 seconds could not be totally corrected. After a while, keeping any adherance to any form of zero crossing had to be discarded. This is because the pitch shift did not always occur during a zero crossing, and nothing could be done about it. Sometimes you will hear a zero-crossing noise during the speed corrections. The end product is not perfect, no one involved was totally happy with it. To do better would have required starting over again, and it might not be any better after finishing. It is listenable to, however and is a major improvement over the original recording. The very slight pitch change of the end relative to the beginning of Atom Heart Mother *may* be part of the original performance. This is a different version of this song than the version on Volume 1!

For you sticklers about original recordings, the original untouched fourth side is presented as track four

A small amount of noise reduction was used on all record sides. Fortunately, the lowest level of the sound recording is way above the lowest level of surface noise. A sample was made of "dead space", both before and after the recording. The lower volume level was used to remove noise. No EQ of any sort was used.

Finally, the end results were approved by consensus.

Now, on to the Music!

*Play this music as loud as possible!* To hell with the neighbors! During the "Embryo" portion, I want to see your cat explode!

:-D

At a minimum, the announcer's voice should be audible over any ambient room noise.


There has been some lively discussion about what the announcer is saying in the beginning of The Librest Spacement Monitor. He is actually introducing one "Nicholas Mason".

What IS "The Librest Spacement Monitor?" It's *not* a different version of "The Embryo", it is a seperate, unique piece all on its own. Whether that was planned, or improvised on the spot is not part of the equation. How is that possible? Artists often incorporate pieces of their existing songs into new projects. Pink Floyd is no exception. If you have ever heard "The Man" or "The Journey", you know that song titles have been changed and portions put into other pieces. Need an example? OK - "The Violent Sequence" became "Us and Them".

The other titles are also rather interesting. Everybody seems to be singing in tune, even Roger seems to be enjoying himself.

Setlist:

PICTURES 1
01. The Librest Spacement Monitor [21:16]
02. Fat Old Sun [13:29]
03. Blues [6:13]
04. Atom Heart Mother - excerpt [3:02]

PICTURES 2
01. Green Is The Colour [3:52]
02. A Saucerful Of Secrets [17:48]
03. Atom Heart Mother (altered) [19:03]
04. Atom Heart Mother (original) [15:16]

Please post comments, we would all like to hear them. By the request of Mr. (Herr) D., no artwork is available. Please check the many available Pink Floyd ROIO sites for artwork.

Lastly, we don't know any better than you do where some of this material was recorded. Where do you think? We would like to know. Marbal's Offenbach torrent solved some of the date questions, but not all.

Engineered by Doinker in his "studio" from the original vinyl, all subsequent actions done in a group meeting with other crazy people during the week of March 6, 2006.

Enjoy! Don't forget, selling has consequences you don't want to deal with!

A DoinkerTape

Also, 7-16-70 is very special. Heartfelt and powerful.

Pink Floyd
Paris Cinema
Lower Regent Street, London, UK
July 16th, 1970

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Lineage: SBD Reels [Master] > CDR > WAV > FLAC [44 KHz / 16 Bit Stereo]
Quality: EX+
Length: 58 min 42 sec
Source: Soundboard recording

Tracklist:

01. The Embryo
02. Fat Old Sun
03. Green Is The Colour
04. Careful With That Axe, Eugene
05. If
06. Atom Heart Mother

I just love this era of Pink Floyd. Never been able to get enough.

Oh, and this one has the seagulls and waves. A big favotite for me:

Pink Floyd Mega-rare restored vinyl "High Time" Rome Italy 1968-05-06 and London 1969-05-12 - Features "The Narrow Way" with vocals, superb sound!
Side one features three tunes from the "Rome Goes Pop! program(me): Astronomie Domine, Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun, and Interstellar Overdrive. The first two tracks are sourced from a VPRO-FM radio rebroadcast on 1988-04-29. The third track is an audio rip from the television broadcast on ARD TV (West Germany) from 1968-05-18. The quality is simply stunning.

Side two is pre-FM sourced from the program(me) John Peel's Night Ride: Granchester Meadows (Daybreak), Cymbaline (Nightmare), Green Is The Colour (The Beginning/Beset By Creatures Of The Deep), and The Narrow Way. The last track is of mention as it contains vocals. For those of you unfamiliar with the extra titles, these tracks were performed on the road during 1969 as part of a concept piece "The Man and The Journey". The versions presented here are notable for their differences from the normal concert routine




This post was modified by bbbrew on 2010-08-11 16:20:04